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If someone has a shuttle of chemical they don't know what it actually is, how do you figure out what you actually have, was recommended SGS labs out of brooking south dakota and sent them a sample but they will basically tell me how much of a chemical it has ,,,,if I specify what I'm looking for, they did tell me that the sample wasn't what it was labeled as it did not have any of the active ingredient claimed....but I'm still left wondering what I actually have. At 175/test, it was worth knowing why things weren't working like they were supposed to (nothing was dying), but I don't really want to throw darts. State extension's suggestion is to give them a sample and they'll do a symptom testing, but I was hoping for something more like an episode of ncis where says....."oh it's this." If any body has any suggestions thank you. Also if anybody has run into this situation before, how did you deal with the chemical company? The performance failure of ineffective burndowns and second passes is going to be fairly expensive for us this year.
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Some clarification on post. Situtation involved two totes of Generic glyphosate that had been carried forward into year. Went into the season with 3 totes, two of which had been filled in 19, one had been filled in 20. Initial burn downs failed, chem retailer was contacted, was contacted by an agronomist for the company that did a pretty good job of convinincing me that the reason the glyphosate wasn't working (would not kill grasses like rye trit or wheat which it's usually fairly effective on) was our water was too hard and I needed to increase my ams rates which we did, although I wasn't smart enough on the time to think....wait I'm not really doing anything differently than last year and it worked last year. This corresponded with swapping out shuttles (one filled in 20) and we started getting good kills and thought well they were right, and earlier failure was user error. Until we loaded the 3rd shuttle and went back to not killing anything and went wait a minute, yanked the shutttle and replaced it with a shuttle of rt3 bought locally, and sent a sample from the non performing shuttle off for testing. Test came back as glyphosate being non detectable. Retailer was notified, and they said they'd make it right, but it's been crickets since, and I'm not sure what make it right means.....product replacement, loss coverage would be hard to calculate because what do you it compare it to when pretty much the whole farm was loaded up and sprayed. All I know is that i've never grown so many weeds in my life, and in a year when it actually rained and we should be hitting home runs, we've got weed chocked fields. I pretty much expect the company the product was purchased from to hide behind a fairly lengthy limit of liability form that had to be signed as part of the purchase agreement, that states the retailer is not liable ofr anything beyond replacement of product found to be defective, but does that still apply if you are supplied something other that what was purchased?
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