Verified FBN Member (NE)
Agronomy

Any biologicals with good ROI?

Anyone having success with biologicals in corn and soybeans? Give as many specifics as possible please (yields, application rate/timing/cost, *********).

Verified FBN Member (SD)

I tried a new product call Pivot Bio - Proven this year. Split an 80 acre corn field in half. Microbiology liquid put in furrow, mixed with my starter. It attaches to the roots and creates amonia, providing 25 lbs or more of unleachable nitrogen to the plant all year. I was really surprised by what I saw. Greener stalks and leaves, no ear tip back, and the treated side was about a week to 10 days ahead of the untreated side. Matured sooner and dried down faster. Same brand, planted same day, same fertility. Had about 7 bushels better yield. My neighbor tried it as well, he had about 10 bushels better. I am planning 4 different corn fields in 2020, 600 acres, going to do a split test on all the fields. I pulled samples every week from Aug. 5th to Sept. 18. I have lots of pictures, this is one example.

Verified FBN Member (IA)

Appreciate your insights, signed for 200 Pivot Bio N acres in 2020...going to National notll conference in st Louis which Pivot is a sponsor..lots of questions and probably questions I don't even know yet..thanks!

Verified FBN Member (NE)

***, I have been looking at ProveN and I'm glad to hear about your results. Have you thought about doing a decreased nitrogen application rate test, maybe reducing application by 25 pounds?

Verified FBN Member (SD)

I am not going to reduce my fertilizer yet. I don't side dress, though. I was going to have a neighbor side dress part of this test field to see if there would be a difference. But it was too wet at that time so it didn't get done. I am keeping the same spring fertility for now.

After the results I saw I decided to become a dealer for Pivot Bio. I have a more pictures if you'd like to see them. Email me if interested. *******************

Verified FBN Member (ND)

We tested it on wheat. No yield difference but where I put 80# less urea the yield was the same.

Verified FBN Member (MN)

What is the cost per acre of the pivot bio? I tried Envita, a product similar, that Legend Seeds was pushing in 2019 and didn’t notice much. That was $9 an acre.

Verified FBN Member (NE)

We tried envita as well and saw some pretty spotty results. Did you try it as a seed treatment or in furrow?

Verified FBN Member (SD)

I have a neighbor selling envita. He said it really plugged up his equipment this last year. You have any trouble with that?

The cost of PROVEN is normally $20 /acre. Sells this year for $17 / acre to new costumers. There are a couple of things you can do throughout 2020 to get up to $4 back, making it $13/acre. Sold in 40 acre lots. If you order 160 acres the payment is deferred til October 1st 2020. if you order 500 acres they have a satisfaction guarantee. Any more questiona or if you'd like more pictures, email me @ ******************* and i can send those to you.

Verified FBN Member (SD)

I am not sure what part of MN your in. I am in west central, southern red river valley. Heavy, wet, tight soils. If you have lighter soils I believe Proven would work even better.

Verified FBN Member (MN)

I put it on in furrow with my 6-24-6. Added an extra 40 gallons of water with it to make sure nothing plugged up and just bumped up my gallons per acre to get the same amount of product on. I think it would work better on marginal ground. I put it on under a pivot where I was also doing 2 shots of 28 percent so I think it had enough nutrients anyway. Also put it on in some heavy ground and I can’t say I noticed much there either. Also tried it on soybeans. I don’t think there was any significant increase there either. I might try it again this year and put it on some different ground or do some trials with it.

Verified FBN Member (NE)

We did a trial of envita this year and saw pretty spotty results. After talking to the envita scientists it sounds like the product doesn’t last in the soil so has to get on the seed. I’m going to try it as a seed treatment next year and see if I get more consistent results... I love the potential of these just hope we get get it all to work.

Verified FBN Member (NE)

We are a dealer for Pivot Bio this year anyway. It runs $13/acre if you do their training video and share planting an harvest data. No pay till October next year on orders of 160 acres or more. I’m really interested in the potential of biological products it can just be hard to weed through the choices! I’d love to hear any others that people have tried!

Verified FBN Member (IL)

Also a dealer for Pivot Bio seeing some amazing results and stress management with this bio we also live in a geography where soils are tight clay and sands. Had a plotjust south of us that was a 38 bu advantage. On average in our area seeing a 17 bu advantage on our marginal soils. Very excited about the future of this product. May be seeing a wheat seed treatment in near future as well.

Verified FBN Member (MO)

We have great success and service with Royal-Grow

Verified FBN Member (IA)

I began seeing soil issues about 5 years after livestock manure was replaced with commercial fertilizer. Wanted to find a reliable, high probability of return product to turn things around. Yield Igniter, 48oz/ A, published USDA ( 3yr+) average 7.6bpa corn (in furrow or V6) and 5bpA soybeans (V4-V6), also increases tonnage on hay. For about $8.25/A, get 3:1 ROI or better with 12bpa corn and 6bpa soybeans averages in 2019. Tank mixes well for 2nd pass corn 2nd and gly' or glu' on beans. (Not labeled for Dicamba or Enlist that I know of). Its a 9-9-3 with humic and fulvic acid from patented process. Plants gain root mass, standability, and performance. Soil health builds from carbon and feeding microbes. Send your questions to ************************ or look them up. There is a good short term investment with long term benefits.

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