Verified FBN Member (SD)
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What is the best high speed planting system, John Deere's or Precision Planting? Pro's and Con's?

Verified FBN Member (IA)

John Deere’s looks identical at 5,6,7,8,9 or 10 mph. Limiting speed factor is how well row cleaners work. We run mostly @7.5 no till into bean stubble.

Verified FBN Member (SD)

Are you happy with the down pressure on the Deere, also have ***** had any seed treatment buildup issues with the brush?

Verified FBN Member (IA)

Dawn hyd down pressure is a must and zero trouble with brush delivery except in mud. easy to clean and zero trouble 202. but 2019 was a little tough in mud holes.

Verified FBN Member (SD)

We set up a John Deere DB60 24row with precision planting 2 years ago. Have delta force wave vision seed tubes, v set meters, v drive. Was interested if speed tube was worth adding over the wave vision tubes. Dealer gave us 2 speed tubes to set up 2 rows. I planted 450 acres At 6.5 mph and I saw virtually no change in the stand. Now if you are wanting to go 10 mph maybe it’s worth some more investigating. I would hate to hit a rock with my planter going that fast. Smooth ground with no hills and mud holes also.

Verified FBN Member (SD)

We want to go from 6.5-7.5 mph. You think the wave vision will do this well without the speed tubes in corn and soybeans?

Verified FBN Member (SD)

I wouldn't be scared at all to plant my soybeans faster with the wave vision, but i can't tell you for sure if the stand in corn will be alright at 7.5 just because i haven't tested it. I thought there would be a noticeable difference just jumping from 5mph to 6.5mph between the speed tube and the wave vision and although i was disappointed there wasn't a noticeable difference it really is a good thing. Showed the wave vision although cheaper than the speed tube still performed awesome. We also run hydraulic dawn row cleaners with yetter shark tooth blades. The shark tooth blades are a game changer when planting into corn trash, compared to the dawn fingers we had before. When switching speeds make sure you have a good fertilizer system if you apply starter in furrow. That's where I think I would rather spend my money after planting this year rather than on speed tube. We figured we over applied $6000 worth of starter fertilizer even tho the monitor was applying it right. Section Control on an in furrow starter might be a must if its saving you that much each year, just my thought.

Verified FBN Member (OH)

We put speed tubes on but were limited to 7 mph because of fertilizer pressure before this year. Did some checks this year at higher speeds, and was surprised but happier with the 9.5 mph stand than I was with 5. I ran out of gears in C at that point on my 7730 so I didn’t try anything faster. 4mph through the rocky areas is all I will do but there’s no reason not to push it up there in the smooth ground.

Verified FBN Member (MN)
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I really think you should give the new high speed system from Ag Leader consideration. We walked fields this summer all planted with Deere planters, one field was planted with the new Deere high speed at 10 mph, we walked a field planted with the Precision high speed with speed tubes at 8 mph and we walked a field planted with the new Ag Leader high speed planted at 12 mph. we did standard deviation checks for each high speed system. Hands down we were the most impressed with the Ag Leader Sure Speed high speed system, it was planted the fastest and it had the lowest standard deviation. One thing I learned this summer is don’t believe your monitor when it comes to spacing, walk your fields and check the deviation with a tape measure to know what you actually have for good spacing

Verified FBN Member (SD)

I haven’t seen a lot on those, how are they on soybeans? Have not heard much on the soybeans with them.

Verified FBN Member (MN)

I have not seen the Sure Speed plant soybeans so I don’t know. Ag Leader and ***** have developed the Sure Speed together from what I understand, but they just released it for sale this summer. It has been in development for a number of years. We were fortunate to know a couple of the farmers testing it for them

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