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What’s everybody’s thought on quad tracks? Likes and dislikes?
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*******, the app wouldn't allow me to reply to your comment. Our max HP for the 9300 is 430. You must make sure that you have a diagnostic port by the cupholder or we are not able to tune that model.
The problem with tires is if your planter is heavy (John Deere DB)you have to have a lot of air in the back tires to move from field to field, which causes compaction in the field unless you somehow adjust for that. Quad tracks are more expensive but simpler. We have a 24/47 and plant in the tracks. Can prove it but we don't think we loose yield.
We have had quads for 13 years. If you are 500+ hp they will pull without power hop that we get with our wheeled tractors under heavy loads. We don’t have any wheeled with suspension but have heard that will solve that problem we have run the quads for about4,000 hours before the tracks need upgrading. $7,000/ track. We like the Deere cabs over CIH.
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I wouldn't have anything else
Not sure if this will help anyone, but If your looking at a quad to purchase and not quite sure on the power, here's our max hp recommendations for tuning. Many models are running identical engines and transmissions.
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****, Do you have data like that for a JD9300 for max tuned HP?
Hey *********, here's the magnums.
Our max recommendations are determined by looking at each machines specially as far as engine, tranny etc to see what they can handle safely that will not affect the longevity.
If you have any further questions I'm available for calls/ text ************
Do you have this chart for magnum series as well?
How are the tuning recommendations determined ?
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This is how I justify a 540 quad trac. It pulls a 33 yard k tec scraper and has got me farming 65 acres of land that was never farmed. I have never tried it but I’m going too say a tired tractor can’t do what 4 tracs with the diff lock in can do on that machine
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We have a 2014, case row track (18” tracks). We bought it used from a good farm with 700hrs through RME.. the tracks were replaced roughly at 550 hours due to factory defects supposedly. Now at 1500 hours the tracks are getting replaced again because they are blowing apart and the undercarriage is getting looked at. Now RME is trying to put the bill on us ($40k cad) which is its own story.
My po...
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Those row tracks are an after market add on too a magnum. If they’re going too last you can’t go much faster than 10 or 12 mph on the road. Case quad trac is a different story it can handle road speed as long as you can go to the center of the road once and a while otherwise the tracks will run on one side of the drive lugs and wear them out
In my opinion tires vs tracks is not the issue. I look at it from a cost standpoint. 800 metric tires will run around $4000/tire and Lsw's more than that. You can buy 4 tracks for quadtrac for under $30000.00 and they will last for 5000 + hours doing field work. In our experience you get roughly 1000 more hours out of tracks than tires mostly due to stubble checking and slow leaks. Curious if othe...
That’s not an equitable comparison....just saying
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I will endeavor to put a sharper pencil to the comparison.
So your saying you cab purchase a. CAT for under 100,000? We used t0run CATS.
.now it’s 2 quads and 3 wheeled.
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Traded the 9200 with pto for the 875B for 70,000 to boot at a local Deere dealer.
I got lucky found the 865C outright for 97500
620’s have come down in price and the decline in price of the caterpillars have slowed. So they are closer together in price. At the time we bought the cats in 2017 and 2018 the 620 quads were over 300,000.
True a planter 24 row 30” planter does not take that much fuel to pull. My load is a 24row 30” wako LLC strip till rig that goes 9” deep that is the biggest load of my tillage tractors
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I pull my 24 row 30” planter with a 765B with a C9 in it . I am usually glued to the hydraulic output screen and not watching the fuel Gallons per hour closely when I am planting. I will watch it next spring and report back. My planting speed is usually a flat 5 mph
Ran a 2013 500 with def. hated the def as it was a chance for the guys to stand around and yuck it up while pouring in 2.5 gallon jugs. Ran it 2015, 2016, 2017. They are better in mud than tires . After returning the tractor when the lease was up, I bought two caterpillars. A 2013 865C with 6444 hours and traded a 9200 with pto for a 2008 875B with 3800 hours. Also let the Mx235 and 450 HD ca...
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I have to question 1/3 price,p. Not with apples to apples. Our 2 quads on 24x30 planters run 12.5 - 15 gpa. You would have to be at 90% power or above to reach 22 gal.
We just bought a CaseIH Row tract (tracks in the back, tires in the front). Absolutely love it. Smoother ride through the field, less slippage, less flat tires. Unbelievable difference on washouts. Want them on my combine.
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We are running 24in tracks. Was told about the speed issue. Have talked to some other people that are using them. They say watch the temp on the tracks. We don't run on much pavement so that helps too. I'm curious about the speed issue, these tracks have 2000 hours on them. I will keep updating how they are holding up. In the shed right now for the winter.
Don’t put that machine over 14 mph on the road. There’s a ton of those machines in my area for running potato harvesters including one on my farm and if those tracks overheat you will want nothing too do with them ever again
When it is muddy, nothing including LSWs compares.
The narrow width on the road is also an advantage.
The maintenance costs are higher and the ride on the road is rough.
Like anything, there are trade offs.
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Likes, smooth field ride, no flat tires, plenty of traction. Dislikes, maintenance, more stuff to go wrong, digging mud and residue when its muddy and freezing at night, rough road travel. I have a 05 500 and as of right nowI think my next tillage tractor will be a tire machine preferably with LSWs. My planter tractor is a mfwd with LSWs and they are very nice. Hopefully more people comment I'm in...
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Have had two case combines with tracks now and just traded for LSW’S. Much cheaper, better ride, more fuel efficient, and higher road speed than tracks. The only thing I do not like about them is they are wider for road transport. I also have a row track that I do like but like the combine, the ride is rough on the road.
U can buy air cab kits for them that really helps road travel and al around ride. I’ve had quads since 2009. I would never go back to a tire. Tractor. To get the traction comparison u get way to wide for the roads and storage. And the maintainance on the quads 2008 and newer very minimal
Here’s a link to a 13 minute YouTube video I did about a year ago. Not a complete comparison, but I thought it was pretty thorough for the comparison that day
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