Agronomy
Pivot Bio
anybody use this product and have you seen any yield reponse's with it, suppose to help corn roots fix nitrogen.
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Ok thats the product i need for the corn the grow.....
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Why don’t you use a good humic/fulvic acid blend? It kicks the pants off anything else I have seen. I can get it with liquid nitrogen and micro macros in the blend also.
Used it last year in irrigated corn across 1000 acres (8 different fields). We are religious about split applying N and spoon feeding the crop. Out of 8 fields with test strips, 0 showed any yield increase at all. Maybe under different management practices it would help but it certainly does not in my situation. I would rather spend the money on a shot of nitrogen after tassel when I get to pick t...
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did you try using less nitrogen in on a strip. That is what we saw in the trials we did. the strip were we cut back the urea by 100 pounds the yield was the same. That is where the savings comes in. we are doing a trial on barley this year.
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I am a dealer for Envita and I know pivot bio is closest product out there to Envita other than Envita can be applied foliar and seed and correct me if I’m wrong pivot bio is through the roots only.
Envita runs 12.95 acre
1gal = 40 acres at 3.2oz acre
$518gal
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can you send us your contact info we are trying to get a hold of a dealer or find out if there is a dealer near us and envita's website is less than user friendly
I have no experience with pivot bio but I have been testing and using envita for 4 years and I’m very satisfied! You might want to check this product out . Never on any test did it not pay for the product with a average of all my tests over a 4 year period 12 bu. To the good . In some cases where the crop was troubled do to water or dry have seen as much as 36 bu. I have made the decision to use ...
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***, we saw 0 gain on spring wheat and corn this year but saw some yield bump on the canola.
Curious what you do to get such good results? Do you apply it in-furrow or foliar? We applied it all foliar in 2022 our first year trying it. Like the product and think it has potential but want to see more positive results before we make the investment on more acres. I would love to talk to you abo...
I watched 3 trials of Proven40 in my area this past summer. All reduced 35 units of N on the 40 acre trials, next to strips of regular full N program without Proven. At harvest, one trial was 2 bushel less on the treated the other 2 trials had the same yield. If I can replace synthetic N with a more efficient product and get the same yield, its a win for me.
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The rate was the same on everything, and I used just water on the planter at planting time
Did 520 acres in 2021 did not see on one acre where it worked I actually lost yield where I did use it, but will try again this year
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Did you put less fertilizer on with the pivot bio or was your rate the same. we did 40 acres with it and 40 acres without it. no difference in yield. Where we saw the difference is where we put 100 pounds less of urea the yield was the same. So my point is the pivot bio breaks down the nitrogen that is in the soil and in the air and feeds the plant the whole growing cycle so you can get by wit...
I have been trying it for three years. This last year I had pivot 40 (second generation, commercially available now for next year). I have seen NO yield difference on any of the years. The push from the salesman is a reduction on fertilizer. When we consider that people over-fertilize as a general rule, reducing the fertilizer does not indicate a benefit from the pivot products.
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Sure it does. We have been putting less then the recommendation for years so I don't think we are over applying fertilizer. But even if we were the pivot bio broke down the nitrogen that was in the ground so that it could be used by the plant. Just like anything it has to have the rain but I wouldn't be afraid to try a field or two with using 100 pound less of urea.
everything test the same protein test weight. I was putting 180 # on everything and the cut it back to 80 for that test strip.
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we put it on as a seed treatment in the trial. the trial was on spring wheat
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100 pounds of urea
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So basically a wash on costs, maybe a savings on logistics
I never seen a yield bump. but I was able to cut my fertilizer and get the same yield. This was in a trial for piovit bio
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How much N did you cut?
I cut it back some on a few of the trials but after planting on the irrigated all my nitrogen goes on through a pivot so the whole field got the same rate on those applications. The people I talked to claimed you would see a bump whether you cut the fertilizer back or not. We also had the highest yielding irrigated that we have ever raised so I would have thought that would give it an opportunit...
did you try cutting your fertilizer where you put the bio. that is where I saw the difference.
I planted 1000acres with proveN in furrow this year on the seed. There were multiple side x side trials on several fields on both dryland and irrigated. The best yield bump I saw was 1bu/A. I saw no visual difference all year. I was very disappointed in the product.
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I did the test for them in ND on wheat. I seen no difference in yield on where we did the same fertilizer rates. what we did was use it as a seed treatment. Now where it shines was for one pass I turned my side dressed urea down by 100 pounds. all three tests yielded the same.
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Including protein? What was your base fertility like?
As far as cost, list price is $20/acre. New customers or orders of 240 or more, save $3/acre. Sign order contract before Dec. 31st, save $2/acre. Also 240 acres or more get deferred payment until Oct. 1st 2021. During growing season, provide planting and harvest maps get ad additional $2/ an acre back. You should be able to get Proven for $14 an acre.
The best deal is ordering 520 acres, you ...
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Does it have to be in furrow or will 2x2x3 work?
You're welcome.
Minimum order is 40 acres, 1 box. Each box does 40 acres. Apply 12.8 oz/acre, in furrow.
Question...
How much synthetic N do you need to buy to get 25# of N into the plant?
Pivot Bio Proven is delivering 25# of N to your plant 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, the entire season. It won't leach and it wont volatilize. Pivot Bio's objective is to reduce dependance on synthetic fe...
Thanks! $20/ac or even $13-14/ac after full discounts is still not something I’d gamble with beyond maybe a few test strips. I’ll kick it around some.
Doing about 1000 acres in side by side. Will let you know. tissue test showed more nitrogen in pivot bio side. All comes down to yield for me and return on my money in the end.
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I split an 80 acre field in 2019. 40 acres with Pivot Bio and 40 without. The differences I saw were quite unexpected. Greener, healthier stalks to the end of the season, larger more fibrous roots, longer fuller cobs, and the maturity of the treated size was about a week ahead of non-treated.
We had a lot of water standing after planting so a bunch of low areas didn't even emerge. I mean 'ze...
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Does the 6bu increase more than cover the cost? I’m still waiting to hear back on what it’ll cost per acre to use. Pivot Bio just keeps putting me off on getting me a price, losing interest quickly.