Anyone care to share F2F harvest results

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Just curious how F2F seed is comparing to competitors yields if anyone cares to share..

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Drought shut ours down. Shut down a lot of guys corn in the area regardless of the brand. Out of 9 qtrs, 3 won’t be harvested, just adjusted out. 5 ran 22-35bu/ac (55-80bu range is normal) and 1 actually caught some rains and will be close to the 55 mark. Pretty disappointing year for corn here when up until end of July it looked like we could hit a home run. Rains stopped & heat came and kernels just shrunk. What made it in the tank looked like popcorn kernels coming in the tank. Such is life though, always next year.

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104 day corn did decent, comparable to the Wyffles number that was next to it. 102 day corn was an absolute boat anchor. We got very hot and dry so maybe I'm being a little hard on it, however some Pioneer in the same field did substantially better. I plan to plant more of the 104 next year.

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MF hybrid not sure which ones. 3 in a field. 170 ish average. Little less than the field of channel across the road pry 180. Beans were less than channel too. 
Last year they were a little less too but still raised over 200 bu dryland. 
I’m going back to traditional avenues for my seed.

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Still waiting to finish the last 80 acres of the K089. This still looks like a keeper in the lineup. We harvested our test plots in the conventional and traited. The conventional was the biggest let down as the plants just quit. Again, rains quitting is the reasons and I've got no control over that. The traited plot came out better than I expected and had a surprise for me. The MRZ-Q010 which is the same hybrid but traited differently (I think that's the correct term) of the P019 topped the plot at 50.2. One rain, but that's always the case here. One rain away from a crop, an average crop, or a monster crop. Either way, two hybrids there to try out again next year with the MRZ-Q010 & MBZ-C939. The KO89 in this trial was the field average. 50 acres in wheat stubble, 105 in soybean stubble. Wheat stubble side made 48, soybean side made 5.7. Yes 5.7 bushels per acre on the soybean stubble. Zero residue, ground just baked.

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I had 5 numbers in my plot,  they could give it to me for free and I would not plant it..... Well the 106 day got 19th place out of 40, so that would be the only one.  They are discontinuing it for 2022 so why plant it.

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Mine we very disappointing this year 104 day conventional 45 by less than 105 day Wyffels on irrigated ground

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Planted some traited and conventional.  Combine monitor yield was off 10-20 bushels on 3 side by sides with pioneer. SYngenta traits. 109 day. Very tall leafy. Shelled harder. Would make great for stalk bales/silage, but we need more grain yield to be profitable with it for grain. Mild dissatisfaction there.

FBN was off 15-20 bushel conventional(102 day) against viking Albert Lea seed. The difference in the price for conventional was only $10-15 acre cheaper, but lost $40-80 depending what price you use on the grain. Tall and leafy again. Good for silage/stalk bales. Very disappointed in that variety for grain.

We are going a different route next year.

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Be careful if you plan to use their conventional corn for Non-GMO contracts. It won’t pass. Had some concerning issues with my corn when I sprayed it with roundup this summer along a fence row and it didn’t die. And when it didn’t pass they pretty much said your on your own I was 90% non-gmo corn and grow specialty crops so I have a pretty extreme IP program definitely no cross contamination

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Pretty much the same as ****. I will say the 92 day beat the $250/bag Pioneer (101) that was right beside it. The 104 day was a touch worse than the Pioneer but I think 1 rain would have changed the entire equation.

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I joined FBN early this year to lead the seed R&D program.  I want to thank you for sharing your direct feedback on the hybrids.  After a career leading breeding programs for some of the largest competitors, what attracted me to FBN was the direct connection we have to growers, so we can develop better products, and better manage product placement to deliver the best return on investment for growers.  Your feedback and your data are essential.  So far, we have data on F2F hybrid performance from about 100 farms this year.  Thank you to everyone who has uploaded their performance data!  PLEASE, if you have not yet done so, take the time to upload your data so we can manage the best portfolio of products and provide the best product positioning for future seasons.  We are rapidly expanding the scale of our breeding and trialing program, and your feedback provides us guidance in making that program as impactful as possible.

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The expansion in the R&D program, the unique network of independent plant breeders that was highlighted in a feature article in SeedWorld today, and the direct feedback from members who have been growing the F2F hybrids is already paying off.  The new launches in 2020 (F2F hybrids ending in a zero, like F2F1C-980 or F2F1G-060) are very strong performers.  I don't want to turn this chat forum into a marketing channel, so I will limit myself to two examples: F2F1C-030 and F2F1C-120 that deliver top yields in high yield environments compared to any competitors.  And, with the good pricing, these new products have a very high ROI win rate. I expect the early maturity portfolio to strengthen dramatically over the next three years.  We hired a lead breeder for the North, sharply increased the resources invested into breeding and trialing for early maturities, and have established multiple germplasm partnerships. 
FBN has hired a new, very experienced lead for seed supply chain - German Muttoni - and German has seed quality issues at the top of his priority list right now.  We are pursuing feedback from growers, investigating issues, and strengthening our quality control standards.  
Please keep the feedback and the data coming.  It is the basis for our continuous improvement, so we can do all we can to deliver you the best ROI seed experience.

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MBZ-T159 took it to feedlot and picked wet. Very pleased with this number and planting more next year. Was 30 bu better than the LG next to it. 
Pivot irrigated

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I planted Pioneer P27A17X ILeVO against FBN 22RL12026 ILeVO Both of these were treated to the hilt - wanted as fair as a trial as possible and the FBN beans were 6 bpa less and the field only averaged 41 bpa.  41 bpa is terrible but 35 is a train wreck. As a small farmer I can't afford to take chances like that and will wait until there is proven side by side in my state comparisons before I plant again.
Photo 1 just shows those varieties planted, Photo 2 not a test pass but the best picture I got to show how bad the FBN beans were on the right side of the picture, Photo 3 is showing my 2020 screen shot which shows my test in the middle of the field.

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Planted the 99 day FBN against a 99day competitor and the 104 day FBN against a105 day competitor all conventional.  First the seed quality was terrible.  The seed had broken kernals and were pointy and looked like sweetcorn kernals.  I've never planted such poor quality seed and I do plant sweetcorn too.  Yield was at least 20-30bu less than the competitors in both instances and the plant height was at least 2feet taller than competitors.  Should be silage corn.  Test weights were 53-54 vs 58-61lb on competitors.  The sad thing is I feel that I lucked out that the yield was only that far off of competitors from what the seed quality looked like.  In talking to the territory Rep the only thing he could tell me was sorry and wouldn't blame me to not plant there seed again. 
 Never again.

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I will never buy the Master Farmer varieties FBN is selling again.  Tried one variety in 2019 and it seemed to fair well.  So, we tried two MG-C840 and MG-A869.  Both of them were terrible.  Some very small cobs, some with no cobs, then a half way decent one.  So far they claim it may have been related to some chemical issue.  I don’t think that’s it.  We’ve used the same chemical system for years now and it’s been fine with all of the other varieties including the one in 2019.  The seed quality looked poor when we got it.  Light weight bags.  Small shriveled kernels.  Although I have to say they all germinated and grew.  Just no vigor I guess.  Regardless we won’t plant any of the brand again.

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I really wish I could give F2F a good review but the reality is that in two years of planting F2F 108 it has been 20 bu. less than similar maturity Becks non-gmo hybrid and does not stand as well. I had hoped to see some new F2F hybrids this year but it appears there is not much new. I can't afford to continue to plant F2F.  I hope in the future they can get some better yielding hybrids. I like the concept but can't afford to give up that much yield. With discounts the becks non- gmo is only $30/unit higher priced.

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Extremely disappointed with the FBN seed corn we tried. To start with the seed quality is terrible. Cracked seed, malformed, damaged seed coats. Final stand was 15,000 ppa less than are other conventional varieties. The corn that did grow had no vigor at all and was way behind all year. The plant height is extremely tall. Great for silage corn but not grain corn. Lots of residue to deal with. Test weights were 51-52lb. All of our other conventional corn was 57-59lb test weight. Yields were 20-25 bushel per acre less. It was the worst corn I have ever planted. They have no one to stand behind their products and in the end no one cares. Education is never free but I learned a lot! Hope this helps someone else!

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